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Another epidemic we helped create - Super Weeds in North Texas

Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:23 PM EST
home-garden, pesticides, epidemic, lawn-care, north-texas, weeds, weed-killer, super-weeds
By Jackie-2759125

4 Feb 2012 - 512 pm today. After spending 3 hrs in the front and side yard, I ended up with 18 merchant size bags of mainly prickly weeds and I still didn't get them all!

4 Feb 2012 - for every one of these "prickly weeds" I pull, 5-10 more sprout up within just a couple days.

4 Feb 2012 - an example of how big these weed plants grow and how effective they are at reproducing

4 Feb 2012 - there are so many tall weed plants that they are choking this rose bush. This year is the first time I've noticed these kinds of weeds on this kind of scale.

4 Feb 2012 - these type of weeds are growing in epic proportions in our yard, our neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods. Farm field across the street -- no weeds at all.

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Before I grab my Ipod shuffle, garden gloves and weed digger, I thought I would sit down and write about something that I have noticed this year that really disturbs me.  My lawn, neighborhood and town is in the stranglehold of Super Weeds. 

I started to notice this phenomenon when I decided to take a natural approach to removing weeds.  The more I went after the prickly weeds, the more I started to find.  For every one I pull, 5-10 new plants spawn and they grown wickedly fast! I have even gone beyond just yanking them to taking a weed whacker to the tops of them but nothing works.  Someone suggested a 50/50 vinegar and water mix after taking the tops off.  I need to try that yet but get the feeling I'd be wasting my time.   

This year on our walks with our dog Spot, I've noticed these weeds are one of the only things growing on lawns not treated with chemicals.  Another thing I noticed is when we walk in the open fields near our neighborhoods, there are few, if any of these prickly weeds.  It's when we come back to "civilization" that we notice the weeds again.  We live across the street from a farm field that we've noticed is completely free of these weeds but the ditches right next to it are covered with them.  I remember one of our neighbors used a weed killer last year on these weeds and now his lawn is covered with them!  As pictured here, some of the weeds are so tall and thick, they are choking rose bushes to death. 

So in making these observations, I've come to the conclusion that these weeds are a form of Super weeds created by the use of weed killers like Roundup.  The current generation of weeds have evolved into nearly indestructible creatures.  When I pull the weeds out and shake the soil beneath them off, I am unwittingly spreading their seed all over my yard and to any nearby.  Companies like Monsanto that create weed killer have a win, win situation here (so they think).  They have created a product that only kills weeds long enough for them to evolve into a stronger strain.  When their product stops working, farmers, gardeners and homeowners are then faced with finding a new, stronger product to kill the new strain of weeds.  Rinse, wash and repeat.  There is a part of me that wonders if these companies aren't putting weed seed in with regular grass seed!  Conspiracy theory I know but hmmmm?!!  While we are fighting this literal "turf war", Monsanto and other companies like them, are getting even richer.  What these companies have done is a crime against humanity, a crime against nature and they keep getting away with it. 

Sooooo I have determined I will not win the fight against these Super weeds but pulling them sure is great exercise and a stress reliever.  I wonder if these weed killer manufacturers ears start burning every time I am out in my yard or on a walk?!!!  The next time you decide to treat your lawn with chemicals, please take my little article into consideration.   

http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/08/23/monsanto-superweeds-choke-midwest-wont-die/

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Jackie-2759125

I don't know about the rest of the country, but here in my town these darn prickly weeds, whatever the heck they are called, are growing in epidemic proportions. My feeling is they are a by-product of weed killer usage. The stronger the poison, the stronger the weed....Mother Nature fights back and she's got thorns.

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:24 PM EST
etva

Arggg! We have these too, and they drive me daft! *sigh*

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:48 PM EST
tzia62

I also have some of these, and they're almost impossible to get rid of!!

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:57 PM EST
HollyKl

Great article, Jackie! Super weeds are not only the result of chemical treatment of our lawns and crops, but they are also an indication that the biodiversity of our chemically treated environment is being reduced. Did you know that heirloom varieties of crops like corn used to maintain their own defenses against pests and weeds? The modified varieties of these crops no longer produce these natural defenses but are instead engineered to require chemical treatment for pest/weed control. Problem is that the weeds are adapting to the chemicals and the crops are still left defenseless. Companies like Monsanto are raking in profit for destroying the natural balance of our environment and for reducing overall biodiversity.

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:06 PM EST
etva

Exactly!

  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:23 PM EST
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Shelby Davenport

One of the tricks is to get them out before they shed their seeds. And, you must get the roots. If the root breaks off, forget it - it's baaackkk!

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:14 PM EST
Dare To Hope

I hate these prickly weeds, they are vicious, blood sucking, terrorists that just wait for you to put your hand in there! They are in my mothers flower beds and seem to grow closest to the rose bushes, maybe there's a connection?

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:19 PM EST
SavickConn

It might be some kind of thistle. Due to the yellow flowers, it might be a kind of sow thistle. I have those in my yard too. They make a nice lettus sounding crunch under my mower and they leave a milky residue when cut.

  • 5 votes
Reply#7 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:28 PM EST
Vlad's dog

You are corect Jackie. I have watched as the use of roundup has proliferated and I have watched as nature has fought back.

Weed killers are a waste when weed seeds are blown in by the wind and plant themselves after the growing season and come up every spring.

Looks like you got a prickly lettuce or sow thistle infestation.

It is best to just dig the whole root out.

  • 7 votes
Reply#8 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:12 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Do either one of those grow little yellow, size of cherry tomato, looking things?

  • 2 votes
#8.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:20 PM EST
Vlad's dog

No DTH, I think what you are thinking of is horse nettle.

  • 3 votes
#8.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:04 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Thanks Vlad's, that stuff is terrible to get up, and hurts, lol.

  • 3 votes
#8.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:14 PM EST
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Mrs D-1475814

What these companies have done is a crime against humanity, a crime against nature and they keep getting away with it.

Great observation Jackie and I agree with you, yet it continues. :( Wonderful article!

  • 7 votes
Reply#9 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:18 PM EST
Jackie-2759125

Wow - thanks to all of you who commented here today and shared your own experiences with these prickly bleepin weeds! Judging from the different locations in which we all live, it's very interesting to me how widespread the problem seems to be! Unfortunately I didn't get down to the root on all of the monsters I grabbed today. Those of you who mentioned that are so right about needing to get to the roots and it's so darn hard! These sobs root systems are interconnected, very thick and deep into the ground. 3 hrs on my hands and knees, 18 merchant size bags and I know they'll be back!

There was one patch I crawled across that was nothing but dandelions and I was so tempted to just douse them with gasoline and burn em lol....knowing my luck that would just make dormant seeds germinate.

Anyhew...futility in action here but figured I'd share lol. Thanks again friends!

  • 4 votes
Reply#10 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:20 PM EST
58rose

well i think it time for some drugs, yeah i know everyone says not to use them, but!!!

  • 2 votes
Reply#11 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:33 PM EST
Jackie-2759125

I'm thinking the chemicals are the reason they are getting worse Rose. The stronger the poison, the stronger the defense mechanisms the plants develop. Kind of like the poisons used for bugs has the same issues. Survival of the fittest --- adapt or die. Mother Nature always wins.

  • 4 votes
#11.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:55 AM EST
58rose

will then i guess a big shovel is the only other thing.

  • 4 votes
#11.2 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 2:42 AM EST
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CrowMeris

Vinegar is highly effective against thistles (and other nasties): Vinegar As a Non-Toxic and Safer Weed Control Option - I've used it myself for years, but it's always nice to have scientific data to support my "old gardener's" tale. :) It will temporarily - for two or three days - acidify the surrounding soil, though, so if you have near-by plants that love it really sweet, use a little caution. Don't dilute it. Household vinegar is only 5% strength, barely strong enough to do the job. You can find higher concentrations at a chemical supply house or farm supply store. Buy the 20%, and mix 50/50 with screaming hot water (wear gloves and eye protection). Or use it full-strength, but treat it with respect like the caustic that it is.

Monsanto, Bayer, Ortho, Scott and companies like them - may they rot in hell. Because of them we will suffer for generations to come.

  • 2 votes
Reply#12 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:57 PM EST
Jackie-2759125

Thank you for this information Crow - I am definitely going the vinegar route next time I do the weed removal operation like I did yesterday (darn I'm sore lol!). There is a special place in the universe for companies like you listed.....Karma will work it out like she always does. "-)

Hope you and your family are doing ok after losing your special boy Jack! Oh I cried reading your article! Again, thank you for stopping in to share this great information!

  • 2 votes
#12.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:34 PM EST
CrowMeris

You're welcome! Unfortunately, vinegar needs to be re-applied - and re-applied again. I've never had to fight thistles on the scale you are waging, but I managed to kill a huge, rangy mass of pachysandra using this method (and a lot of old-fashioned pulling and digging). That was all-out war. We were living right on the verge of an Audubon reserve, and the horrid stuff was escaping into the woods in leaps and bounds.

Thank you for being so kind about my Jackie-boy. Day by day.

  • 2 votes
#12.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:35 PM EST
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Rene ODeay

it looks just like a huge plant that grew up next to the fence and the fence vine my sister insisted on using RoundUp to kill. it made my health worse, but she didn't see the connection.

  • 3 votes
Reply#13 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 5:33 PM EST
Jackie-2759125

I'm sorry that happened to you Rene it proabably is connected! What makes nature sick and die is going to affect us also. My Aunt in Idaho told me that she noticed the same thing I am talking about here when they had lawn service for a few years. The weeds got worse than ever so they just discontinued the service.

  • 2 votes
#13.1 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 12:33 PM EST
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Jackie-2759125

Cut the lawn today and sprayed the 5% vinegar as a test - we'll see. I'm guessing it was a waste of time. Have to get 20% if I really want to go at them. When i sprayed some of the weeds the vinegar sat on the leaves like water - didn't absorb. Like the plant has a protective lining. Taking a weed wacker and taking off their heads only pissed them off it seems lol - they grow back even pricklier than what they were originally.

  • 2 votes
Reply#14 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 9:14 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Oh man, I hate that for you. Those are some serious weeds!

Did you see the article someone has up about the drought predicted for the next 8 years for Texas?

  • 1 vote
#14.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 10:37 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Here's the link:

http://progressivegrae.newsvine.com/_news/2012/02/07/10338481-drought-in-texas-could-last-8-more-years-care2-healthy-living

  • 1 vote
#14.2 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 10:41 PM EST
Jackie-2759125

Yet another reason to "HURRAY" with sarcasm....sigh...lol. We had enough rain fall recently to replenish about half of our losses. Hopefully we'll get the other half soon, just not all at once! Glad to hear from you DTH and hope all is well. Just having a crappy day - found out my Great Uncle died on the 2nd and my neighbor was put into a mental ward yesterday. When hubby and I go to get groceries may be I'll have to get something decadent in the dessert department! Don't typically use food for comfort, or try not to but today....hmmmm. May be a few Little Debbie Peanut bars would do the trick!

  • 2 votes
#14.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:15 PM EST
Dare To Hope

I'm so sorry about your Uncle, and your neighbor, both so sad. Hopefully your neighbor will get the correct treatment and recover. It just doesn't seem to end does it?

I think you should treat yourself to what ever your heart desires, if it takes the whole box of Peanut Bars or two, go for it. If you really want a treat try the Ben & Jerrys New York Chocolate Chunk ice cream, you won't stop till you get to the bottom :)

I hope the rest of the day goes better for you ♥

  • 3 votes
#14.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST
John Galt-1207820

Jackie-2759125

Is this what it looks like? There are many different thistle weeds. I agree with others on the chemical co's and the way they are changing the environment. I have a farmer friend in AZ that got conned by Monsanto, though the farm bureau, into using gmo/w/round-up cotton seeds on his ranch and 3 years later the superweeds have taken over the cotton crop. I have used a small torch w/tiny flame on certain weeds, as l can target just the weed top, but l am not suggesting the use of that for you. It prevents the reseeding. My suggestion to you would be to target what it is, and search for alternative ways to eradicate it, the vinegar sounds like a good idea, maybe add a bit of soap to make it adhere better to the leaves. Good luck.

  • 4 votes
#14.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:07 PM EST
CrowMeris

John Galt:

...maybe add a bit of soap to make it adhere better to the leaves.

Very good idea.

I've used a propane torch on really stubborn weeds in concrete cracks, but I wouldn't recommend the method for anything in a garden. I'd hate for Jackie to have to come up here and kick my sorry behind because ALL of her greenery went up in a huge whoosh!

  • 3 votes
#14.6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:55 PM EST
Jackie-2759125

Thank you for the link John - I don't think the weeds we have are the same ones as the link. The ones I photographed are the primary ones. I need to see if there is any kind of info on Texas weeds. I've looked before but had difficulty pinpointing them. Thank you (John and Crow) for telling me about the fire/torch ideas but not suggesting them lol. I will try adding some more soap to the vinegar and see how that goes. Really appreciate the feedback and info. It's so frustrating to have pulled 18 bags of weeds, go out a few days later and find just as many out there again!

  • 3 votes
#14.7 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:21 AM EST
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John Galt-1207820

CrowMeris

Well, l sure wouldn't like to see that (Whoosh) either. l actually used an acetylene torch w/smallest tip, and only on the top of the weed where the seeds are, which is enough. Yes, l suggested the soap, because of the fact it would spread and hold the vinegar to the plant longer. I had also thought about cayenne pepper in the mixture. I like to experiment organically. I hate chemlawn. I used to watch them come weekly to homes in Fla., put on their big masks and start up the sprayers on the lawns and shrubs. Is this the " better living through chemistry" they meant, so many years ago in the dow ads?

  • 4 votes
Reply#15 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:35 PM EST
common sense-353470

I noticed that weeds that were never in my garden before have been cropping up and the only consistent thing is that is where I planted potted plants from the garden center.

This may be something in common throughout the country as the greenhouse growers may be using chemicals that have raised resistant weeds.

I tend to put all organic matter in a compost- that seems to work. I use weeds from the yard and kitchen veg scraps, coffee grounds, dog hair and paper , pretty much everything. It makes lovely soil.

So strange to see 'summer" weather in Texas at this time of the year, but it may work in your favour as the heat produced by compost can effectively kill unwanted plants and even seeds!

  • 3 votes
Reply#16 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:45 PM EST
Jackie-2759125

Hello common-sense and thanks for sharing your experiences here. I agree with you with what you suspect about greenhouse growers. The place I notice it a lot around here is chemically treated lawns. The lawns are either completely dormant (mine is lush and green) or they are infested with the weeds. Like you, for my roses, I put the morning coffee grounds into the soil, dog hair and even people hair lol. Already the roses are reacting to the increase in coffee grounds and seem to really like it. The weather here has been really "back and forth" lately. For a couple days we'll hit up to 70 and then for the past few days below freezing in the morning with a high of 50. This is going on everywhere I think! Wierd is the new normal as far as weather! Thanks again for visit and the info.

  • 3 votes
#16.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:49 AM EST
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Jackie-2759125

It's March now and with the nice rain we've been getting lately these weeds are having a real growth spurt. Some of the yards, especially in the newest neighborhood are almost completely covered with them. Even the treated lawns have them. I'm trying to focus on the blades of grass putting in a good fight and not the weeds. Also taking a live and let live approach to dandelions. The reason for this is the last time I was going to get rid of one I saw bees and butterflies feeding on them. If they like them why don't I?

  • 1 vote
Reply#17 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:59 AM EDT
CrowMeris

Thistles or dandelions - I'll take the dandelions! My bunnies eat tons of these during the growing season, both leaves and flowers. I actually run short on them, and my neighbor across the road said I was welcome to come pick all that I wanted out of his field.

Here are a couple of things I've ran across in the last couple of months:

You Bet Your Garden (it's a blog sponsored by the GardensAlive! website but doesn't advertise GardensAlive products in the article itself. I like that.) It gives some techniques on using the vinegar method.

A new product called Nature's Avenger that's OMRI certified organic. I think I'm going to get some of it (if I can find a small bottle) to help me keep the dreaded periwinkle in check. I'm plumb worn-out fighting it, though compared to your thistle problem, I'm counting my blessings!

  • 2 votes
Reply#18 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:55 PM EDT
Jackie-2759125

I will definitely take a look at the site Crow, thank you, and I'm with you about being tired of fighting lol...Mother always wins anyway and well...rightfully so I think lol. Guess I'll just let her cure the "acne" (weeds) in her way.

  • 2 votes
#18.1 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:05 PM EDT
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